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in that stag nato bama economy more people are dependent on government. >> despite being down in most polls ryan said the gop ticket will eventually win over voters who are frustrated by a stagnant economy. >> given that we are going to win this. >> reporter: and romney has a lot to gain from a debate says cathleen hall jameison. >> the challenger has the opportunity to establish he is competent to stand up and hold his own against the president of the united states. a challenger who accomplishes that, in effect, wins the first debate. >> reporter: romney las been studying for the debates since june, the last month he has even been traveling with his obama stand-in, ohio senator rob portman who has joined him on his plane and campaign bus. the obama campaign contends romney has prepared more than any candidate in recent history. >> he's been a good debater in the past. he's very prepared. he's got all these clever zingers and lines in his pocket some we understand he will probably have a good night on wednesday. >> reporter: obama campaign observations have been trying to convince us for we
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